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For some reason people think psychological operations are some kind of urban legend.

What exactly was the damage he did?

He exposed massive unconstitutional dragnets that made the unaccountable agencies look bad.

If the damage is "makes the US look bad from their illegal surveillance of citizens", then the NSA did that to themselves.


The long island economy is split between well paid public servants, NYC commuters, and the circular economy of driveway contractors and tile contractors in an arms race for the nicest walking surface.

There are no other jobs on the island that pay decently. Cutting edge engineering work will make you half of what it will in either the DC or Boston areas.

The conductors are highly paid in part because it's the local custom, and part because a third of the economy would collapse if that train stops running.


Automating trains would let LIRR run trains more often because they aren’t having to pay 2-3x median income for someone who does little on each train

It would be better for society to pay these people to do nothing while we run more trains automatically.

All US passenger rail runs off of massive state subsidies. The absurd pay is the taxpayers money.


> It is unfathomable that a team of US military (people with families of their own no doubt), would all nod along and agree with your contention.

The Vietnam and Korean wars would like to have a word.

Your belief that the US military is guided by any kind of moral or ethical line is naïve at best.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Gun_Ri_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-23427726


If the US military was unethical, it wouldn't have lost in Afghanistan.

The problem is fighting unethical enemies, because they do shit like use ambulances as troop transport, have soldiers dress the same as civilians, and given any kid old enough to shoot a rifle.

To your post more specifically, is there is no one holding these unethical enemies responsible. There are no history books, or journalists, or wikipedia articles about the insane shit they do.

The Taliban has a base where they truck in young boys to "service" the officers and it's lost to time. The US has a single ethics catastrophe, and they are held up for it for decades...


> If the US military was unethical, it wouldn't have lost in Afghanistan

You can be unethical and still profoundly incompetent.


Smoking out villages and shooting everything that moves with cutting edge weaponry doesn't require much competence.

Which is why the US famously won the Vietnam war...

If that was the case the My Lai Massacre would be meaningless, because the entire war would have been that.


Genocide is usually not an efficient way to wage war. Even ancient armies usually did not slaughter entire towns, not because of ethics, but because fighting sucks and if you slaughter everybody you come across, nobody is going to surrender and every person you come across will fight you to the death.

I say usually, because there are some exceptions and nukes are one of them, they make genocide a viable war strategy. But even nuking Vietnam would not have worked, cause you will simply get nuked back.


Its more that you make it clear that you will kill anyone who doesn't surrender. Then most people end up surrendering.

In modern militaries though, the expectation is that you will just leave civilians alone.


There are some terrorist states that indiscriminately kill civilians though, such as Israel and the USA.

The worst thing people would do is surrendering in those cases.


As opposed to who? Iran fired missiles at Israeli (and Arab) civilian areas, so did Hezbollah and Hamas when they used to have that capability.


That's precisely what I expected. That people would pop up defending US atrocities by equating them with the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah.

And you know what? You're right. Those are all terrorist organizations.


It sounds like he had already found it the old fashioned way, then the noobs sic'd the LLMs on it, found it, and he told them "hey chill, we knew about this, don't ruin it" and they ruined it.

To quote Dr Ian Malcolm:

"If I may... Um, I'll tell you the problem with the scientific power that you're using here, it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could, and before you even knew what you had, you patented it, and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now [bangs on the table]"


That quote logically implies that people should be paralyzed to act on any novel information. There is no such thing as a discovery that occurs in a vacuum without some prior art. "Standing on the shoulders of giants"

Then again, its a silly illogical movie


I disagree. It's pretty clear the complaint is the lack of responsibility or care for the dangerous science at the center of the movie.

The complaint wouldn't be remotely the same if Hammond was taking the power he was playing with seriously. His character is the villain, he ignores every warning and almost kills his grand children.

In the case of the PS5 Linux project, the researcher who has worked towards the skills required to find these bugs has a greater respect, moved slower, had time to think.

People playing with the enormous power of LLMs finding hypervisor bugs and throwing it in the fire have no respect for the work.


There were suspicious rednecks shooting out power stations a couple years ago.

The FBI routinely finds mentally ill people to convince/encourage/fund a terrorist attack and arrest them after they purchase materials with FBI money and call it a sting.

I don't think it's nearly as hard to find someone as you think.


> Iran can't have a nuclear weapon. It's an intolerable premise

Actions have consequences. The continual attack on the sovereignty of countries around the world has made nuclear weapons one of the few ways to avoid being a client state of the US at the expense of your own population. Iran has figured out another method it seems.

This is blowback. The simple lesson that we refuse to learn.


> The continual attack on the sovereignty of countries around the world has made nuclear weapons one of the few ways to

Name the other countries pursuing a nuclear weapon. Maybe you are drumming up a fear that nobody else really has.


They don't announce their secret nuclear weapons programs before they are complete (though they are sometimes discovered), but some countries have violated international law and developed them, precisely to protect their sovereignty:

  - North Korea
  - Israel
  - India
  - Pakistan
All retain their sovereignty, though I can't prove any causal effect and certainly nuclear weapons isn't the only cause.

Others have pursued them, includng Libya, South Africa, etc. Libya agreed to surrender their program, and then their government was deposed with Western help. Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons (left over from being occupied by the USSR) in exchange for peace from Russia, and you can see what happened. That doesn't encourage the next person to give up theirs.


India and Pakistan both rushed their programs back in the 40s/50s ( or maybe later I can't recall off the top of my head). Libya and South Africa were negotiated away. That leaves Israel probably from the, what, 70s or 80s? And North Korea was supported by Russia and China. I'm not sure you could consider any of those countries to be "pursuing nuclear weapons" today. Plus by that logic you'd have to throw in the US, UK, China, Soviets, and France too.

So when you sort of set aside countries from prior to, idk, 1980s ish you don't really have anyone at least publicly (to your point) pursuing nuclear weapons. However it's not just the enrichment of uranium which is tightly controlled it's also the missile technology to deliver the weapons. Keeping a nuclear program secret these days I think is quite a bit more difficult than in the past.

So when you look around today you've got Iran that we know of pursuing a nuclear program. I'm not sure anyone else is by virtue of how difficult (I think?) it would be to do so undetected. Though there are countries (Japan and Korea come to mind) who we think have the ability to scale up a program very quickly.


> India and Pakistan both rushed their programs back in the 40s/50s

India worked on them on and off for decades and first tested one in 1998, and IIRC Pakistan matched them soon after.

North Korea was in the 2000s.

> So when you sort of set aside countries from prior to, idk, 1980s ish you don't really have anyone at least publicly (to your point) pursuing nuclear weapons.

I'm not going through the comment correcting all of it.


> I'm not going through the comment correcting all of it.

Yea, why bother when you're peddling misinformation?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiling_Buddha

> North Korea was in the 2000s.

Yes supported by Russia and China they got the keys they needed for the delivery mechanism (ballistic missiles). But the problem with North Korea is they threatened to kill hundreds of thousands of people in South Korea if anyone stopped them from building their bomb. South Korea didn't want that to happen and China would have fought against American forces had we tried anything in North Korea. Not much we can do.


These are well-known, non-controversial facts.

For anyone unfamiliar with the topic, I encourage them to lookup when India, Pakistan, and North Korea developed nuclear weapons - you will find the answers in an instant.


> These are well-known, non-controversial facts.

Yes, like India successfully tested their first nuclear weapon in 1974, not 1998 like you are asserting.


India and Pakistan were late 90s.

Japan and South Korea literally have 100s of American military bases on their territory. You really think they are sovereign nations who can pursue an independent nuclear program?


> You really think they are sovereign nations who can pursue an independent nuclear program?

Yes? Are you really sitting here telling South Korea, Japan, Germany, and more that they’re not sovereign nations because they choose to have American military bases on their home soil?

> India and Pakistan were late 90s.

Source please


I believe Israel also didn't announce they have nukes, it's just mostly assumed they do.

> Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons

Ukraine never had nuclear weapons. Russia is the sole legal successor of the USSR and these were all Russian nukes on Ukrainian territory.

> in exchange for peace from Russia

There isn't a single mention of nuclear weapons in the Budapest Memorandum.


> Ukraine never had nuclear weapons. Russia is the sole legal successor of the USSR and these were all Russian nukes on Ukrainian territory.

Structuring the breakup so that the nukes are Russia's is not really different than Ukraine giving up the nukes on its territory.

Where did they draw the line? Obviously not all USSR assets are now Russian assets, as Ukraine still has (or had) its own stockpile of Soviet era weapons, and other things like Soviet era airfields.


This is over simplified to the point of being misleading/wrong. Russia was the legal successor of the USSR for purposes of diplomatic continuity, but the other Soviet successor states divided portions of the Soviet military/equipment, split Soviet debt obligations, etc on a case by case basis.

> split Soviet debt obligations, etc on a case by case basis.

What split of Soviet debt obligations? Russia took over all Soviet foreign debt, as well as all the foreign assets


Nuclear weapons are a special case though. Plus Ukraine didn't have the ability to use them anyway without launch codes as far as I'm aware.

Electronic components can be swapped out. The nuclear material is what really matters.

The ability to fire the weapon matters too. You need a delivery mechanism.

Oh, those magical "Nuclear launch codes" - that turned out to be set to 0000 in the US or used a bike key in the Brtisih case ? Turns out being able to actually use the weapon in an emergency tops the codes not working.

Ok sure, I am not super aware of the intricacies here. But what does it matter?

That in the end it depends on the crew launching the nuclear weapon & the chain of command instructing them to do so. Having some codes is not sufficient - a whole complex process with many safeguards has to run to the end for things to happen.

> There isn't a single mention of nuclear weapons in the Budapest Memorandum.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170312052208/http://www.cfr.or...

Points 4 and 5 mention and are about use of nuclear weapons.

I think the memorandum was intended to be a security guarantee to Ukraine after they (and Belarus, and Kazakhstan) joined the NPT and transferred formerly-Soviet nuclear weapons to the Russian Federation. I don't know why anyone would suggest otherwise.


Since the USSR no longer existed and Ukraine became a sovereign nation again, Ukraine had possession of them.

There is no large country left which is not an American client state to pursue nuclear weapons . India was in the 90s, and they pursued nukes, tested them and got sanctioned by the west.

How are you defining large? Geography? Population? Certainly you've got countries like Brazil or South Africa or Indonesia. I'm sure we could think of a few more.

This is the chaos that silicon valley and the current US government has fully gotten behind.

Glad I'm not the only one with this complaint.

I've been playing music for 20 years, learned and forgotten plenty of music theory. The only way I actually "grok" it, is by re-deriving the whys, but then that slows my learning to a crawl and I begin to forget the earlier lessons.

The memorization doesn't work well for me. I can read music, I can derive scales and chords, but the memorized knowledge of "this chord is technically the same as this one so we'll start calling things other things but it all means the same thing" gets me totally lost.


A library of 10,000 songs can fit on most phones.

Until Sam Altman disrupted the entire computer economy, HDDs were cheap and when you replace your desktop, the old one becomes a server.


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