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> Same goes for amazon buying imdb and they've already used that to adjust scores for at least one film they released

Any source on that ? I found nothing serious, just reddit and Facebook post. No one serious is reporting on it.


Ah actually unfortunately I think I made a mistake there so I apologize for that. Should have double checked instead of speaking from memory. I believe I was thinking of The Little Mermaid change but it seems like that wasn't their film. Sorry!

https://www.avclub.com/the-little-mermaid-imdb-changes-ratin...


> Should have double checked instead of speaking from memory.

Claude :)


Oh is that a claude thing? Definitively a false positive in this case and I don't care much for ai in general. Pretty damn awkward that I might need to memorize ai text styles even though I don't use them so I don't accidentally write the same way as one of them.

The problem with Amazon owning IMDB, or A24 potentially owning Letterboxd, is not that they would screw with it, but that every move they make will be put through that lease. Even with NYT being the owners I’m sure there would be the regular ‘drama’ of whatever woke/anti-woke influence they may have over it.

For money. There is barely any competition yet.

When you buy an iPhone that was made in sweatshop, you contribute to it. There are alternatives but most people really don’t mind having slave labor build their iPhone.

Same for kids wasting their life on screen, most parents don’t mind as long as it keep them busy and it’s one less thing to care about.


There is too many money involved, benchmark can’t be trusted.

I had a favorite benchmark, SWE-rebench, but sadly it's no longer maintained.

But yeah, I'll just take these benchmarks with a grain of salt. Only hands-on experience matters in the end, and these days it's very easy to switch models.


I don’t know if they did or didn’t try to kill bookmarks.

But on the commercial incentives, it does make sense for them to kill it.

Companies pay good advertisement so they show up first on the search result when a user want to find them.

Eg you want to go to carglass website: you type carglass in google and the company will most likely pay Google to show up first in the ads section because competitors are trying to sway away customers from them. If they didn’t outbid their competitors, even though the customer want to go to carglass, he will click on first result and may end up buying from their competitor without even noticing.

That wouldn’t happen if people had put carglass.com website in bookmark.


Google doesn't show ads on navigational queries because of the potential trademark-infringement legal issues that could result from recommending a competitor when somebody searches for a trademark.

Search for [carglass], no ads. Search for [facebook], no ads. Search for [spotify], no ads. Search for [american airlines], no ads. All of these would be very desirable queries to advertise a competitor on.

(IIRC they've gone back and forth on this depending on what the lawyers thought they could get away with; ISTR when Bing launched Microsoft would run ads on [google] that pointed to Bing. It's been a long time since I've seen an ad on a navigational query though.)


As a counter example, a couple days ago I was to install DaVinci Resolve on a new windows installation, so I searched "davinci resolve." Since I was used to having adblocker, I just clicked the top result, which is titled "DaVinci Resolve" but actually takes you to some awful shady thing like wondershare or softonic/uptodown, I forgot.

I feel like, navigational queries or no, Google should be held liable for allowing scam sites like that to advertise. I think there was a trending HN post recently on that front.

Should the police be liable for not preventing your house from being broken into?

Did the police gives out keys to my house and give some of them to criminals? Then yes.

No? I'm not sure what the comparison here is.

> As a counter example, a couple days ago I was to install DaVinci Resolve on a new windows installation, so I searched "davinci resolve." Since I was used to having adblocker, I just clicked the top result, which is titled "DaVinci Resolve" but actually takes you to some awful shady thing like wondershare or softonic/uptodown, I forgot.

I just tried this query on chrome / android.

This is the first link on the page at the very top:

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve

(The product page)

The next site listed was Wikipedia.

I don't have any adblockers. I am in the US.

When people tell me this stuff about their Google searches it drives me insane, I want to know why our experiences are so different. It is regional? Is it OS, is it browser, is it something else? I want to know!


You know your search results are personalized right? If I google something and my girlfriend googles the same thing, on the same network, we get different results.

>You know your search results are personalized right?

Of course.

But these results don't seem to change on a degoogled chromium on desktop, with no google account login personalization, no account logged in, in incognito, using: Ublock origin lite, User Agent / OS Randomizer, Privacy Badger, and using a VPN to other locales.

That's why I want to know, I've been curious about this for years, and nothing I've looked at seems conclusive.

My biggest guess is country or native language, but it's been hard to pin down. I think that may be the biggest factor (with local laws contributing maybe to how search results get displayed).

I'm curious! I want to know the driver behind the bad experiences people are having with it. (I've been using it literally since it was released.)


When you say "navigational queries" do you mean Google Maps?

If so, you may not be aware that the locations represented by square dots on the map are ads.


This a search domain term that means a search query where the user is trying to find a specific destination/product. I don't know how Google search works, but often a search will first go through an intent classifier and then use a different model based on the query type.

A "navigational query" is a query with a certain website in mind. So like if you search for [facebook], 99.99% of the time you are looking to go to Facebook, if you search for [hacker news] 99.99% of the time you are looking to go to news.ycombinator.com. Basically it replaces the address bar for people who don't know what URLs are. You aren't looking for information about the business, you want to go to the site/business itself.

Thanks to you and @bradley for the explanation.

Just saying, the author blames corporate internet and the algorithm that feed you content, but if you browse 2 articles before (this one: https://alicegg.tech/2026/06/12/popular-upcoming) he then praised steam for removing the “upcoming game list” that was purely based on the number of wishlist a game received and is praising the new algorithmic personalized calendar of upcoming “for you”. I find it a bit hypocritical.

People use these algorithms because they love them, and yeah someone posting once every 1 or 2 month is not going to make it in these days and ages. I don’t think the internet became worst, it just adapted to other needs.


Grapheneos with Google play services (sandboxed) only send 12 packets per hour, instead of around 350.

That’s great, but the sandboxed Google play services are by default set to normal in battery usage. Meaning it’s subject to dooze and other ways to artificially limit its background activity.

You neee to set the battery usage to unrestricted to reliably revive notification.

I wonder what the packet count would have been with unrestricted Google play services.


I'm less interested in the quantity, and more in the content of those packets. Do they contain my GPS movement history? A list of installed and opened apps? My contacts list, messaging text log, and list of visited websites?

The data I really care about protecting would fit into a few kilobytes, so knowing the phone sends, for example, a minuscule 2 MB/day, brings me no comfort.


Google play services on ‘stock’ android has access to absolutely everything. Including list of apps.

Obviously they send back this data to Google, for legitimate and advertising reasons. For instance, how would they backup apps you have installed if they didn’t know what you installed in the first place.

On grapheneos, it doesn’t have access to this data, but it can still gather a lot of data (just as regular apps on Android). Location (even without location permission), WiFi devices around, Gyroscope so they know if you are standing, driving or else, etc…

Android is rotten to the core.


> Where is your source for this? It is entirely possible to make a secure computer system

You can’t. You don’t need source for that, just common sense.

Exploits are discovered every day, bugs happen, bad actors.

You can do the best system, shit still happen.

BTW you want a source ? Remember when the freaking CIA data got leaked ? Edward Snowden, ring a bell ?

If the cia couldn’t prevent it, I bet you can’t.


Seeing the sheer level of incompetence in the U.S government, I don't think citing CIA has the intended effect you think it has.

CIA in 2000’s wasn’t yet under trump government and even then, they are still one of the most secure organizations.

Trump or not, everyone think of them as highly secure.


You mean the same organization that leaked chats by using Signal and had people in the group chat that wasn't supposed to be there?

That was extremely recent, and a mistake from a politically appointed person.

Not someone who actually got hired.

Trying to paint the CIA as incompetent is ludicrous. I can’t believe you think otherwise.


GDPR in Europe puts it at 4%, and yet we are seeing leaks every week.

10% maximum mean nothing if it’s not enforced, you got to make examples.


Don’t you have fee when initiating a lawsuit ?

I don’t know in the USA but in France, if it’s deemed that you launched a lawsuit knowing very well it wouldn’t succeed, you are susceptible to get a 10k€ fine. Even jail in serious cases.


Yes. And you(r lawyer) can collect lawyer's fees and you can be made to pay the court fees, if you lose.

IME the American legal system is set-up to discourage litigation, though. A common tactic is to bury your opponent in the threat of heavy damages or jail-time to get them to settle for what you were originally after, which courts are perfectly happy to facilitate because it gets a potentially lengthy trial off their dockets. They'll punish (or be biased against) whichever party seems responsible for not accepting a "reasonable" settlement.

Algorithmic abuse of the system to extract payments already exists in the form of the debt collection industry.


A common tactic is to bury your opponent in the threat of heavy damages or jail-time to get them to settle for what you were originally after, which courts are perfectly happy to facilitate because it gets a potentially lengthy trial off their dockets.

That's not how litigation actually works in this country. Unless the plaintiff can actually prove damages, there's no threat of "heavy" damages. The primary economic concern is spending a lot of money on legal fees, which is the primary trigger for getting businesses to settle instead of litigate. It doesn't work so well against people though.

They'll punish (or be biased against) whichever party seems responsible for not accepting a "reasonable" settlement.

That is false and any judge caught doing that would be removed from the bench, immediately. The judge does not exercise any judgement over what a "reasonable" settlement is as they don't and wouldn't know what is reasonable until the facts have been presented...at trial.

Algorithmic abuse of the system to extract payments already exists in the form of the debt collection industry

The debt collection system doesn't use the court system at all. Assuming you are referring to individual debts, not corporate debts, debt collectors have a very low success rate in court since (a) they have to prove the debt is valid, (b) that they now own the debt contract, and (c) they did not violate any laws in the pursuit of collecting on that debt. A and C are actually really hard for a third-party debt collector to prove.


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