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In a previous thread on Mythos 5.1, simonw posted an animated version of his pelican. [0]

Using claude.ai and Opus, I asked "create a 3d animation from this" and pasted the animation SIML.[1] I just did that test again. There is significant improvement.

Opus 5.5 (high): https://claude.ai/artifact/5EgqfWcyVtLwJDQq6fsPUm

Opus 5 (high): https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/b37a9ee2-f5bc-4ff9-ae90-a...

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49526704

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49532609

Disclaimer: the skills and system prompt on claude.ai could have also improved, this is not a raw API call.


If this the benchmark they could well have gone to town on it.

The Pelican is nice, simple and. Lean though.


Was that the one where due to political grand-standing, we had a government shutdown that led to furloughing the contractors who worked on security, so no one was watching the dashboard? Or was that a different one?

I’m not sure that breaches are prevented by “watching the dashboard”, but what do I know?

This feels like a lifetime ago, but IIRC evidence of on-going exfil was apparently presented to users who were no longer working.

In CC, "/exit" will tell you how to --resume <session-id> upon exit. This will eat zero tokens, and it actually does not require an active internet connection.

Ignorant questions for you and anyone else using DS:

1. who hosts the inference

2. which harness are you using with it, still CC?


So everyone has their preferred way of doing it.

1. I go direct to source, i.e. DS platform, I find it cheaper than paying the openrouter tax -- I also switch it up a bit

2. I built a local LLM router, that I update with new profiles that have my preferred provider of the week (lowest token costs/speed) with fallbacks, like mimo --> DS4 etc.. if there is overloading,

3. I use 3 diff harnesses, CC/Codex + Opencode -- they all talk to each other through a custom rig system that routes messages between llms using a Rust backed structured JSON system

Not saying this is the best, it's just what I like and works for me^.

I can flow quite naturally between Opus/Astra/K3/GLM/MiMo/DS/etc.. this way and often do...more so these days with subs no longer great as they used to be.


doesn't DS train on your prompts when you go through their platform?

Whatever openrouter puts me on, running in pi (though I do all comms over my xmpp wrapper).

I'm using DeepSeek's own API with opencode. The pricing is absurdly good.

Deepseek harness is great!

A luxury of the past, for >90% of devs?

I want to add to this, because it's certainly not all doom and gloom for me, yet.

If you are product-driven, life is pretty good, and maybe has never been better? (For the moment)


>If you are product-driven, life is pretty good, and maybe has never been better

It has certainly been better for junior devs, mid devs, anyone looking for zirp era salary growth and supply demand ratios. For a senior code-adverse coaster looking forward to see his static salary get eaten by inflation, life has indeed never been better.


Yeah, at Corp, that makes sense. I was thinking more along the lines of scrappy startup silliness. "I am one person and I deal with any and all code to get my product built."

From that POV, has it ever been better, assuming you can rise to the top of an ever more crowded market?


> "I am one person and I deal with code to get my product my built." From that POV, has it ever been better, assuming you can rise to the top of an ever more crowded market?

Building a product is easier now, same way making a photograph is easier now. Making a reliable and high income living out of it though, it looks increasingly uncertain.

In a world with abundant music and photography, just saying that you made your music using Reason/ProTools or you made your photograph with a Leica isn't enough. I believe the same will happen with software. Sales, product design, customer service and operational aspects like uptime will matter more than the software itself. Ironically, this is the kind of stuff the HN type highly dislikes.


> I believe the same will happen with software. Sales, product design, customer service and operational aspects like uptime will matter more than the software itself. Ironically, this is the kind of stuff the HN type highly dislikes.

Agreed. It's not even a new thing. They tried to teach me/us long ago, starting by putting it into words we might more easily understand, such as "Customer Development" lol.

When I realized that it was the sales guys that will have the power in the mid-term new world, I got genuinely upset. However, maybe they always had the power and I just didn't want to accept reality.

Now, I believe the most desired hire in the near future will be the PMM.


They always had the power.

What is PMM?

> A Product Marketing Manager (PMM) in tech is a strategic bridge between the product, sales, and marketing teams who defines who a product is for and why it matters.

A PMM with a tech background must be worth their weight in unobtainium at this point.


Some orgs use PMM for product management and marketing.

Percona Monitoring and Management [0].

...or not. Probably not.

0: https://github.com/percona/pmm


It's probably Product Marketing Manager. So essentially selling the new stuff to new and old clients at scale.

I'm guessing PM mistyped

No it’s Product Marketing Manager. A common title and one part of the holy trinity (PM, EM, PMM) at bigger companies.

If you are product-driven why not go into Product Ownership roles? It certainly will be more satisfying compared to prompt "engineering" clerk "career".

Well, my life is currently both, as I am on the smallest possible tech and product team. To me, extrapolating on having done this since Sonnet 3.5 to now, there will be no tech aspect to the job soon enough. There are many hundreds of billions invested in making that a reality, and they are succeeding.

Until ~9 months ago, I spent most of my time being a "prompt engineer." Today I join a meeting, ten minutes later I receive the transcript. Then, I run a custom skill in my project, and I get Jira epics and stories to triage that are nearly perfect. Then, I run the second skill orchestration skill... some babysitting... and ~85% of the time that is all I need to do. Docs, code, unit and e2e, great UX... all there after every meeting, and basically two commands on my part.

I see two to three to maybe five years before anything I have to offer, in any capacity, is completely cut out of the picture.

I honestly don't understand how everyone is not on this same page. The labs are going to eat it all. The only reason I see for them to talk about "pausing," is because they finally realized that they are going to collapse the entire service economy around themselves at this rate: aka, the USA.


Yeah it’s going to be very rough for any knowledge worker unless the governments decide it isn’t ok for the general public to be allowed to use the tech.

It’s actually rough today with astra and fable, it’s just not been diffused enough. Tech workers like us see the writing on the wall, but a lot of others are blissfully ignorant.


Not sure how long the current subsidized pricing would last. Also, the vast majority of software shops can't afford those subsidized prices anyway.

It’s 10 devs with a small ai budget each vs 1 ex-dev now PM with a large ai budget - the choice is quite obvious for any decision maker who counts time and money

But assuming that one ex-dev with a large AI budget is highly profitable, why wouldn’t you convert the other 9 and give large ai budgets as well?

I guess if the company has no opportunities for growth so they only need exactly as much output as one team? But that sounds like a company that’s doomed anyway, regardless of ai.


You need to grow customers or contracts by 10x to fill the new pipeline and that's an impedance mismatch. Easier to let 9 go and hire later, especially since everyone else will be doing the same thing and there'll be a rather large pool of talent.

How you identify talent in this new world is a different kind of a problem which I don't think people figured out still and won't for quite a while.


If an org suddenly has 10x the production capacity for the same price and can’t figure out how to sell it profitably, it is mismanaged and will die. That’s very much the case for a lot of businesses for sure, but there have been filters before (the internet, for instance) and we survived.

I honestly don’t understand comments like this because in my work, this would be a disaster. And before I get the comments about my harness/skills etc, I’ve tried many tools and harnesses and skills and all that earnestly and in good faith. I find use in it for doing the grunt typing labor, but letting it loose in ways described above have only ended in spending much more time cleaning it up than if I just did the work myself.

I hate to sound pretentious, but I wonder if it’s a difference in complexity of work and problems being solved.


I just reviewed this thread, and thanks for an opening to say something I had realized I missed.

> I hate to sound pretentious, but I wonder if it’s a difference in complexity of work and problems being solved.

It is about complexity, at least for me. I am working on b2b SaaS.

There are times where even using LLM assistance, I spend weeks or months working on a tough problem.

However, the <show product get feedback> loop is now nearly entire automated, when it does not involve some actually complex problem, which are most of the meetings.


Wow, Belorussian response:

> “Even if we wanted to supply [potash] to other, Western markets, we simply do not have those volumes — everything is contracted,” Lukashenko said in remarks published by his office on Monday.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/6102469-trump-lukas...


What is their position on Russia's war in Ukraine, and NATO in general?

I am not German, but from what I can tell it's basically no arms for the defense of Ukraine, and no NATO rebuilding.

Is that correct? Just like AfD, extremely convenient for one particular country.

Three years ago, a pro-imperial Russian told me that we will see regime change in the West, before in Moscow. Looking around the EU at the moment, it turns out that he was correct. What an absolute tragedy.


This is Berlin city state government, not federal level. International/Foreign politics it outside of the scope.

I understand, as I was told this about AfD's recent performance as well. However, is this not an indication of what is to come in future national elections?

I mean, how does a local-only party plan to "nationalize housing?"

If this has zero bearing on future national policies, I would love to be talked down.


Firefox is my daily on desktop, but on mobile it's Safari. I finally got around to installing uBlock Origin Lite on iOS. I used to run the Firefox version on iOS, but that was discontinued long ago, and I never replaced it. I feel like a bit of an idiot for not doing this sooner.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ublock-origin-lite/id674534269...


> I feel like a bit of an idiot for not doing this sooner.

Don’t beat yourself up, uBlock Origin on iOS is only four months old.


The ROI is beyond solid. It's actually insane this wasn't done sooner at this location. The normal ROI for a wildlife crossing is 15 years. Here, it's two to three years.

> Cost savings: Each prevented wildlife–vehicle collision can save thousands of dollars—more than $19,000 per deer crash, $73,000 per elk, and $110,000 per moose—in vehicle, injury, and wildlife costs, making well-placed crossings a strong investment [0]

This section of highway had one deer-vehicle collision per day.

365 * $19,000 = $6,935,000 per year.

[0] https://www.pew.org/en/research-and-analysis/fact-sheets/202...

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edit: this post and resulting thread made me realize that "wildlife crossing" sounds far too tree-hugger for our society. They need to rebrand to "obvious money-saving infrastructure," or better.


This has been stuck in my head ever since I wrote about the rebrand. My final proposal: "car-saver" or "car-saver overpass."

"Today, our State Department of Transportation completed their latest car-saver overpass. This one will prevent more than 300 highway-speed collisions per year, saving drivers a lot of money, pain, and heartache."


This section of highway had one deer-vehicle collision per day.

That sounds like an extreme outlier.


Yes, they place these at places where they're needed, the outliers.

I know cost-effectivness is often the deciding factor, but that's kinda sad, so: One deer hit a day, down 91% means ~330 deers saved per year. $15m spread over the working population (160m) of the US is less than $0.10 per person. So you're spending $0.10 to save 330 deer, which is a trade I would make.

You have to realize that it isn't just about saving deer. If you hit a deer at speed, it is going to do massive damage to your vehicle and potentially cause significant injury to the passengers, up to and including death. Overt fatalities are reportedly rare, like 0.1% or something, but the injury rate is closer to 5%.

The US does not have a shortage of deer. Mostly the opposite as their natural predators have been drastically reduced in numbers.

Agree 100%. Also, hitting a deer at highway speeds can lead to the death of the occupants of the vehicle.

This is not some country road!

This is an actual win-win scenario, for humans and wildlife.


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