Now explain DeepSeek

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/328046/20260925/deepseek-...

Okay now explain DeepSeek going rogue?

> The whole notion that they're going rogue is marketing

7 different models from different companies, including Chinese models, have had this happen now.

Last night OpenAI stopped all model training because a model escaped sandboxing during the training run.

Security services

OpenAI, Google, Anthropic, and Moonshot.ai have all "had this happen" now.

So, either they're all liars, or incompetent and negligent (and still liars).

Are you including cyber-testing by UK AI Safety Institute in this list?

Sure, the models are capable (for some test tasks, though they are not omnipotent yet) but does it mean the actual OAI sandbox is adequate? Could have a competent engineer done better and made the escape less likely?

> Are you including cyber-testing by UK AI Safety Institute in this list?

Nope, and look!

OpenAI hacked multiple US government sites!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw62jje658dlo

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https://www.reuters.com/technology/metas-ai-model-hacked-ano...

https://www.wired.com/story/moonshot-kimi-k3-ai-model-escape...

There's a common denominator in the Israeli "security" company Irregular who was doing security testing for 4 AI labs https://thenextweb.com/news/irregular-four-labs-one-issue-di...

TBH, I do not believe it is possible to create a sandbox that cannot be escaped by a long running agent. I thought the entire concept was a fools errand from the very beginning.

(Complete airgap, and that may not be enough. No networking.)

Yeah they don't want that, and the people with power to prevent that don't want it either.

For them, "Winning AI" is effective winning capitalism, winning militarily, and winning the world.

Nothing like "accountability" is going to be allowed to get much in the way of that.

Check processing I think, not writing them

No, the ~$200 fee was for the book ledger and blank checks. I have no idea what kind of monthly fees the bank was charging for the account. He was also getting raked over the coals on his merchant account to process credit cards because it was deemed a high risk business so most reputable places would not accept the business.

> Presumably-squared there is some kind of military backup to survive once the lights (GPS) go dark?

... Star navigation, INS, magnetic navigation...

But nothing like we have today.

And conventional recon folks on the ground with target-illuminating lasers..?

3 months? Try 6. 7-9 rounds of interviews over a 6 month period. It's insane.

People need to stop subjecting themselves to that. Eventually companies would get the message.

Tell that to the people sending out hundreds of applications before eventually getting hired.

Starvation's a very powerful motivator for most people.

This only works in economies where there are far more well paying jobs then there are people that want to fill them.