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Disney+ and Hulu is probably the best value I get out of all the streaming services I subscribe to. Easily worth it for me.

I disagree.

(is this the level of discourse we're going for here?)


Never owned a Samsung appliance, but I had a Samsung smart TV for about year. Worst piece of technology I have ever owned and threw it in the trash and got a Roku.

Roku-being-sued-for-illegally-collecting-and-selling-children's-data Roku?

Yes I don't care. I like it a lot better.

Roku sucks. Is that the bar? Can barely do anything on it without an internet connection or Roku account.

You can just not connect it to the internet

I think country is associated with the iCloud/Apple ID account, not the physical device.

To an extent. My account is on a different country. Even using a VPN, I was still asked to verify my age to access certain websites. The only explanation I could think of is that iOS abused my consent to them using location data for that.

Nobody actually wants to invoke Article 5. The European countries talk a lot, but they don't actually want to do anything serious.

Macron famously said that he would "have to send troops to Odesa" and yet 3 years later there are still no French troops in Ukraine and Russia has captured even more territory and is now actively bombarding Kyiv.

The reality is that, despite their public statements and posture, every leader in the EU secretly hopes USA can broker a peace deal and this all just kinda goes away.


Ukraine is not yet a NATO member. Poland is.

> The reality is that, despite their public statements and posture, every leader in the EU secretly hopes USA can broker a peace deal and this all just kinda goes away.

This might've been the reality three years ago. A lot has changed in the US in the last three years.

Nobody wants to invoke article 5, I do agree. But I think they might understand that it's more likely that A5 is invoked than the US brokers a peace to with anybody. They're the department of war now.


It's not the reality of the USA but it's still the reality of EU wishes.

You're saying this as if it is some kind of gotcha?

Don't you hope, not so secretly, that a peace deal can be brokered and we don't have to send our young men to war? I know I do, and I hope most people do. It would be weird if you don't.

The reality is, despite Trump being a gigantic arsehole, the US is still, by a huge margin, the worlds premier military. Realistically, they have the best chance of exerting pressure for a peace deal. I just wish Trump would live up to his promises for once.


You're saying this as if it is some kind of gotcha? Don't you hope, not so secretly, that a peace deal can be brokered and we don't have to send our young men to war? I know I do, and I hope most people do. It would be weird if you don't.

The reality is, despite Trump being a gigantic arsehole, the US is still, by a huge margin, the worlds premier military. Realistically, they have the best chance of exerting pressure for a peace deal. I just wish Trump would live up to his promises for once.


And I wish I was flying though the night sky on a magical talking pony but here we are

> The reality is that, despite their public statements and posture, every leader in the EU secretly hopes USA can broker a peace deal and this all just kinda goes away.

100% agree.


Lots of stuff gets discovered by AI bots that was always hidden in plain sight. They're remarkably good at "connecting the dots".

Being an effective pattern matcher and next word predictor is like 60%+ of intelligence, maybe more.

The people that say "It's just a next word predictor" might as well be saying "Well, it's just a long rage nuclear missile".


Meaningless stat. My company keeps our website job listings open indefinitely and it's because we're always hiring. We're just extremely selective.

This stat is meaningless because insert anecdote here.

Every company is selective

What a load of BS, if your churn rate is so high that you always have to hire that's a sign of a terribly toxic workplace.

We don't churn. We are constantly adding more and more developers

What company is that, are you hiring remote?

For a lot of people their time and their effort is worth more to them than their money unless it is something they particularly enjoy doing themselves.

Something similar was attempted in Houston in the 1980s and the US Supreme Court struck it down as a clear 1st Amendment violation [1]

> The Constitution does not allow such speech to be made a crime. The freedom of individuals verbally to oppose or challenge police action without thereby risking arrest is one of the principal characteristics by which we distinguish a free nation from a police state.

[1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/482/451


Canada has a charter of rights and freedoms, but there’s a section that allows governments to override it at will so it’s effectively worthless. And nobody knows that better than Quebec.

In Quebec's version of this law it's legal to insult politicians and police - but only in French.

tabarnak

the sad part is I can't tell if this is true or not

Eh, "effectively worthless" is a stretch, you still might have to spend political capital and breed resentment when invoking it, there's a reason the notwithstanding is not invoked every time.

Doesn't Quebec have it's own slightly different constitution than the Canada wide one? If I remember right, there's been cases where things aren't allowed per Canada Charter but are allowed per Quebec's own one.

Sure, Quebec has a different constitution than Canada, but this isn't any different than US states having their own constitutions too.

The difference is that the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms has a "notwithstanding clause" which, when invoked, allows a province to avoid having one of its laws struck down by federal courts even if it goes against some parts of the Canadian Charter (though only applies to some rights, not all).


I really wonder if that would still get struck down by the SCOTUS of 2026. If give it 50/50 odds.

The current supreme court cited the 1987 Houston ruling in both 2024 and 2025 in decisions that reaffirmed insulting police officers as constitutionally protected speech.

So yes, the current SCOTUS has already upheld it.


but no support for constitutionally based protection from bullets, cuz ICE be killing US citizens

but you can legally call them cunts, so that's okay I guess



>and the US Supreme Court struck it down as a clear 1st Amendment violation

you do realize that Montreal, Canada is not in the 51st state, correct?


It is possible to read a story and relate it to your own circumstances.

The root comment speaks as if Montreal is a US city, which it is not.

It is valid to remind and affirm that Canada is a different country with a totally different landscape of rights.


I'm aware that Montreal is not part of the United States.

But since this website serves a primarily American audience, I was curious if such a law was possible in the US and I found that it is not. So I posted that.


Canada's first amendment is about a completely different topic :-)

Good for them, if only Canada was able to understand that.

> kills all reinforcement learning

I have the opposite experience. My intellectual curiosity has increased immensely since starting to use Chat GPT. I can snap a picture and instantly know what kind of bug I am looking at, whether I am looking at a Red-Tailed hawk or a Red-Shouldered hawk and how to tell the difference, what the gauges on my water tank and boiler mean, and numerous other things that I am curious about daily.

These are things around me that I wouldn't have bothered to investigate just due to time and effort. And now I appreciate all these little curiosities more than ever.


Being able to look something up real quick isn’t the same as knowing something, is it, especially in the specific absence of some reinforcement mechanism to retain it?

This is suggesting that I can only know something if I had to painstakingly research and discover it myself?

I just mean that I’ve been able to casually look things up once in a moment of curiosity on the internet since the 90s. This did not lead to memorising all those interesting facts, much less understanding them, and I’m not sure what the mechanism is that would lead to that sort of knowledge acquisition. If anything I’ve probably learned less because I know I can just look something up I’d have otherwise needed to learn. And in any case, actually learning hasn’t resulted in a collection of random otherwise unrelated facts I can remember, but understanding systems and relationships.

The knowledge I have learned has indeed come from what might arguably be described as, maybe not as painstaking, but certainly something with intention and effort.

To me it sounds like you’re describing learning to write by having ChatGPT write essays for you. You don’t actually know how to identify birds, you know how to ask your phone to do it for you. Though I can understand the illusion this may cause you to feel. I get the same when I watch high level chess players play, and then am reminded what I can actually do my next game.


For me, the primary mechanism for learning is doing projects.

And, doing projects in domains I'm unfamiliar with (and those I am) is massively sped up by AI.

I learn to do these projects with AI - it's different than learning to do it without AI, and I don't learn some steps I otherwise would, because AI can do those.

But, I start and finish and use and polish so many more projects in so many more domains, with AI, than I could without.

And, starting and finishing projects is the point for me, not learning obscure stuff that doesn't help there, so, I don't feel like I've missed out on much. You might look down on it, but, if I have AI and you don't, I will bet on me to finish a project before you, better than you, in almost any field where we have similar levels of experience.

IDK about frontier-pushing-pursuits, though. I've written algorithms by hand that I doubt AI ever would have, in its current state... but, then, at least a few of those I'd given up on, for lack of time, and when AI came along, I was able to go back and have it finish them. But, for me, the work wasn't the goal, or even my own accomplishment therein - I just wanted the result. If your motivations differ, you might not find AI as fucking awesome as I do.


Sure, you can be much more productive writing essays for example if you have AI write them. Homework of course is much faster and easier if ChatGPT does it for you. All of these things were possible even pre-AI by paying someone else to do things for you (though in some cases it would be considered cheating, but if we set that aside). You’ll definitely blow anyone out of the water who studies or writes for themselves. I also totally get that the productivity gains are so attractive you don’t mind not learning some or all of it. But we are talking about knowing and learning things. Or at least that’s what I thought the thread was about.

"If I should really WANT to answer the foolish question you have just asked, or any of the other questions you have been asking me, let me remind you that I have a row of electric push-buttons on my desk, and by pushing the right button, I can summon to my aid men who can answer ANY question I desire to ask concerning the business to which I am devoting most of my efforts. Now, will you kindly tell me, WHY I should clutter up my mind with general knowledge, for the purpose of being able to answer questions, when I have men about me who can supply any knowledge I require?"

- Henry Ford

This is roughly my point. The moment the AI was able to do things for me, those things which it could do became trivia. I never had a taste for trivia. I still fill my days with learning and knowledge... the things I must learn and know to do my work and run my business well. I am growing faster with AI than I could without - it's allowed me to expand my purview while narrowing my focus. No less learning, just a different shape of it.

So, to me, the argument that "AI doesn't help you learn" completely misses the point. AI can help you learn, if you use it to and apply yourself, but also, AI can allow you to accomplish without filling your mind with "general knowledge" - not the high value stuff that is your business, but the low level stuff that was incidental.


Like random bird facts though?

No, but your example of being able to quickly look something up doesn't back up your claim that AI will boost everyone's ability to learn.

It does, though. Whether or not they take advantage of it... "You can lead a horse to water..."

Wasn't that the exact point of Terrence Tao's "A Severe Misalignment of AI in Mathematics"? [1]

[1] https://mathandai.org/


So tell me about the red tailed hawk. Why is it interesting, and how will you apply that in your life?

According to current theories of learning, the best learning happens at the point of struggle, where you internalize that you went down a wrong path, and needed to backtrack. What part of the struggle of learning did you experience as a result of this, and how did it reshape other thought patterns?


I don't know what to tell you, it's just a tool man. Like a Google search or a trip to the library.

Why don't you tell me about your struggle to research and discover all the science and technology behind indoor plumbing so you don't have to take a shit in the yard, or in your pants?


I don't think I ever pitched plumbing as a tool for learning (though, I did learn a lot by repairing it myself).

Same.

Reminds me of this cartoon: https://imgur.com/life-before-google-q0eP1Rg

__

"Life Before Google: A Short Story"

dog: I just thought of something I'd like to know more about.

rabbit: That's a damn shame.

THE END


I mean for me personally I have always had an obsession for knowing these things anyways, it just lowered the barrier to entry for me a little bit in terms of information gathering

First I went from asking my parents then reading lots of books then specifically researching on google and forums now for most general knowledge information I can just ask AI


>These are things around me that I wouldn't have bothered to investigate just due to time and effort. And now I appreciate all these little curiosities more than ever.

I think you're conflating access to information with genuine learning.


It's been every administration. Obama and Biden refused it also

Sure, but there is a difference between not wanting to take part and actively trying to sabotage it for everyone else.

Bush, Obama and Biden wanted to keep the US out of it. Trump wants to destroy it.


Because Evil Camacho is a buffon, and does in clear light what others have the decency to do in civilized ways.

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