No wonder why they are all radicalized. 123 kids. Jesus.

Except for the censorship. We use it for massive data crunching, and roughly 5-8% (depending on the day) gets censored and doesn't get a response. We switched to Mimo 2.6, which is relatively better. For censored stuff, we use Sonnet and OpenAI Nano models.

Also Mimo 2.6 is roughly 30% cheaper. Without batch.

What sort of content is it censoring? Politics I assume?

News mostly. Anything China-related gets censored without hesitation. Some random stuff got censored too. It is borderline unusable, to be honest, unless only numbers are crunched.

Interesting. Was planning to use it for a news related thing too. I guess one can throw Jev at it first to ask whether it relates to China and then decide?

Or use the failure to get a response like you say

We are using it with OpenAI Luna. We send any failed query to Luna, and the operation is complete.

Not a source but a comparison with a weaker non-SOTA model:

Nvidia's top AI chip Rubin sells in 72-GPU racks for about $3.5–7.8M. A rack running Xiaomi's MiMo V2.6 Pro generates roughly 150–300B tokens a day, worth about $130–260k at Xiaomi's API price. That's a payback of the infrastructure in a few weeks in theory. After a few weeks or a month, the only cost is electricity, and whatever they make after that is pure profit.

OpenAI and Anthropic are practically scamming people with the token prices.

Or come up with good projects that utilize these and provide services that Ai alone gannot provide.

And what that would be? Prostitution?

I think large database-related projects. Ai context will never be billions of tokens. And prostitution on the side. With both, we will make a good living.

pearcmd.php must exist, and register_argc_argv must be on, not common with hosting providers. But I am assuming the other themes and meeting conditions possibly affect a lot of WordPress sites.

As the article points out, one issue is that the official Docker container for PHP has this configuration.

However at least in principle all of the affected versions [0] could be automatically updated. Not sure if they have set it to auto-update as far back as 4.7 though.

[0] except 4.9.3 which has a bug in its automatic update mechanism.

pearcmd and register_argc_argv are just examples. get_page_template was unsanitized in some themes, that's the flaw, you could then combine it with one of a million unauthorized file upload in wordpress plugins to try and eval code. An attacker would like to use upload + this chain of requires (instead of just uploading a php) because of hardened configuration and the pwn can go unnoticed in the logs.

Also, with pearcmd (if you can get to that, there's no open_basedir) and containers a novice sysadmin will publish insecure sites.

All I care about is the token price for the API. Haiku cannot get close to GLM or Mimo.

Everyone is collectively hating on Anthropic, so this news is just adding to the fun.

At least after buying 166mmx you didn't get lowered to 133mhz after a month. The progress was legit back then.

Hey I bought a ‘cyrix pr166’ so i’m not too sure about that.

Funny I was duped into buying Cyrix instead of Pentium 2. The guy was telling me it would play Quake better. It didn't, of course.

That's not chinese models' fault. Fable and Astra deserve to be punished for their scammy bait-and-switch.

It sounds like they are pricing very well because OpenAI and Anthropic have been scamming us for years. Once the infrastructure is in place, electricity cost is the only concern. China supports businesses and gives them a lot of incentives to lower their costs. And who knows what's being provided to them without anyone knowing. All in the name of winning the race.

If that is true, why are the open model inference providers on OpenRouter (and on their own website) so expensive then? It must be the hardware. I've checked and a lot of it it just the HBM, with the NVidia tax being a smaller but also large factor.

Nvidia's top AI chip, Rubin, sells in 72-GPU racks for about $3.5–7.8M. A rack running Xiaomi's MiMo V2.6 Pro could generate roughly 150–300B tokens a day, worth about $130–260k at Xiaomi's API price. That's a payback of a few weeks in theory.

So yes, we are getting scammed by American SOTA.

Interesting. Then my theory is that the free market inference providers have low utilisation (e.g. 20% avg; 100% at peak), slowing their amortization rate. The OpenAI/Anthopic rates must then have been based on a time when there utilisation was peaky and mostly idle (e.g. 10/20%). That would maybe explain the 10-20x cost difference between coding plans and API.